{"id":23352,"date":"2024-09-24T21:28:21","date_gmt":"2024-09-24T20:28:21","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.sebpalmer.com\/blog\/?p=23352"},"modified":"2024-09-24T23:23:20","modified_gmt":"2024-09-24T22:23:20","slug":"art-aubrey-beardsley-salome","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.sebpalmer.com\/blog\/?p=23352","title":{"rendered":"ART: Aubrey Beardsley\u2019s Salome art."},"content":{"rendered":"\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" width=\"813\" height=\"1000\" src=\"http:\/\/www.sebpalmer.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/img_9515-1.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-23350\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.sebpalmer.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/img_9515-1.jpg 813w, http:\/\/www.sebpalmer.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/img_9515-1-244x300.jpg 244w, http:\/\/www.sebpalmer.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/img_9515-1-768x945.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Gorgeous!<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>I have neither read this, nor seen it enacted. Maybe I should? Can anyone recommend a staging, or adaptation?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" width=\"813\" height=\"1024\" src=\"http:\/\/www.sebpalmer.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/img_9516-1-813x1024.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-23351\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.sebpalmer.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/img_9516-1-813x1024.jpg 813w, http:\/\/www.sebpalmer.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/img_9516-1-238x300.jpg 238w, http:\/\/www.sebpalmer.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/img_9516-1-768x968.jpg 768w, http:\/\/www.sebpalmer.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/img_9516-1.jpg 900w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">So beautiful.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Rather like art, culture, history, music and my many other interests, sex is frequently on my mind. And consequently sex<em> in <\/em>art and culture kind of triple-whammies things.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>One thing I find kind of odd and irritating is that there\u2019s not much that sits in my own idea of the Goldilocks zone, when it comes to sex. The way sex is treated is, all too often &#8211; unless absent altogether &#8211; either too tame or too extreme.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-gallery has-nested-images columns-default is-cropped wp-block-gallery-1 is-layout-flex wp-block-gallery-is-layout-flex\">\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" width=\"500\" height=\"711\" data-id=\"23372\" src=\"http:\/\/www.sebpalmer.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/img_9517-2-1.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-23372\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.sebpalmer.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/img_9517-2-1.jpg 500w, http:\/\/www.sebpalmer.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/img_9517-2-1-211x300.jpg 211w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 500px) 100vw, 500px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" width=\"500\" height=\"659\" data-id=\"23373\" src=\"http:\/\/www.sebpalmer.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/img_9518-2-1.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-23373\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.sebpalmer.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/img_9518-2-1.jpg 500w, http:\/\/www.sebpalmer.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/img_9518-2-1-228x300.jpg 228w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 500px) 100vw, 500px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" width=\"500\" height=\"640\" data-id=\"23374\" src=\"http:\/\/www.sebpalmer.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/img_9519-2-1.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-23374\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.sebpalmer.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/img_9519-2-1.jpg 500w, http:\/\/www.sebpalmer.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/img_9519-2-1-234x300.jpg 234w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 500px) 100vw, 500px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" width=\"450\" height=\"566\" data-id=\"23375\" src=\"http:\/\/www.sebpalmer.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/img_9520-2-1.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-23375\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.sebpalmer.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/img_9520-2-1.jpg 450w, http:\/\/www.sebpalmer.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/img_9520-2-1-239x300.jpg 239w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 450px) 100vw, 450px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" width=\"500\" height=\"688\" data-id=\"23376\" src=\"http:\/\/www.sebpalmer.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/img_9521-2-1.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-23376\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.sebpalmer.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/img_9521-2-1.jpg 500w, http:\/\/www.sebpalmer.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/img_9521-2-1-218x300.jpg 218w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 500px) 100vw, 500px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" width=\"500\" height=\"703\" data-id=\"23378\" src=\"http:\/\/www.sebpalmer.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/img_9522-2-1.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-23378\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.sebpalmer.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/img_9522-2-1.jpg 500w, http:\/\/www.sebpalmer.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/img_9522-2-1-213x300.jpg 213w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 500px) 100vw, 500px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" width=\"500\" height=\"692\" data-id=\"23379\" src=\"http:\/\/www.sebpalmer.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/img_9523-2-1.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-23379\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.sebpalmer.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/img_9523-2-1.jpg 500w, http:\/\/www.sebpalmer.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/img_9523-2-1-217x300.jpg 217w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 500px) 100vw, 500px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" width=\"209\" height=\"300\" data-id=\"23361\" src=\"http:\/\/www.sebpalmer.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/img_9524-1-209x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-23361\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.sebpalmer.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/img_9524-1-209x300.jpg 209w, http:\/\/www.sebpalmer.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/img_9524-1.jpg 500w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 209px) 100vw, 209px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" width=\"450\" height=\"618\" data-id=\"23386\" src=\"http:\/\/www.sebpalmer.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/img_9526-2-1.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-23386\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.sebpalmer.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/img_9526-2-1.jpg 450w, http:\/\/www.sebpalmer.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/img_9526-2-1-218x300.jpg 218w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 450px) 100vw, 450px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" width=\"500\" height=\"694\" data-id=\"23390\" src=\"http:\/\/www.sebpalmer.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/img_9525-2-1.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-23390\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.sebpalmer.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/img_9525-2-1.jpg 500w, http:\/\/www.sebpalmer.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/img_9525-2-1-216x300.jpg 216w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 500px) 100vw, 500px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" width=\"222\" height=\"300\" data-id=\"23357\" src=\"http:\/\/www.sebpalmer.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/img_9527-1-222x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-23357\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.sebpalmer.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/img_9527-1-222x300.jpg 222w, http:\/\/www.sebpalmer.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/img_9527-1.jpg 450w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 222px) 100vw, 222px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" width=\"450\" height=\"644\" data-id=\"23389\" src=\"http:\/\/www.sebpalmer.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/img_9528-2-1.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-23389\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.sebpalmer.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/img_9528-2-1.jpg 450w, http:\/\/www.sebpalmer.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/img_9528-2-1-210x300.jpg 210w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 450px) 100vw, 450px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" width=\"216\" height=\"300\" data-id=\"23369\" src=\"http:\/\/www.sebpalmer.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/img_9529-1-216x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-23369\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.sebpalmer.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/img_9529-1-216x300.jpg 216w, http:\/\/www.sebpalmer.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/img_9529-1.jpg 491w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 216px) 100vw, 216px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" width=\"751\" height=\"1024\" data-id=\"23359\" src=\"http:\/\/www.sebpalmer.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/img_9530-1-751x1024.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-23359\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.sebpalmer.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/img_9530-1-751x1024.jpg 751w, http:\/\/www.sebpalmer.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/img_9530-1-220x300.jpg 220w, http:\/\/www.sebpalmer.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/img_9530-1-768x1047.jpg 768w, http:\/\/www.sebpalmer.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/img_9530-1-1127x1536.jpg 1127w, http:\/\/www.sebpalmer.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/img_9530-1.jpg 1467w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 706px) 89vw, (max-width: 767px) 82vw, 740px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" width=\"221\" height=\"300\" data-id=\"23371\" src=\"http:\/\/www.sebpalmer.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/img_9531-1-221x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-23371\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.sebpalmer.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/img_9531-1-221x300.jpg 221w, http:\/\/www.sebpalmer.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/img_9531-1.jpg 500w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 221px) 100vw, 221px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" width=\"350\" height=\"330\" data-id=\"23388\" src=\"http:\/\/www.sebpalmer.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/img_9532-2-1.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-23388\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.sebpalmer.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/img_9532-2-1.jpg 350w, http:\/\/www.sebpalmer.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/img_9532-2-1-300x283.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 350px) 100vw, 350px\" \/><\/figure>\n<\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>[NB: The above gallery uses very poor quality images, borrowed from the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.gutenberg.org\/files\/42704\/42704-h\/42704-h.htm\">gutenberg.com online version of this work<\/a>.]<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>By way of explaining what I mean, you go from the ubiquity of tits n\u2019 ass &#8211; usually but not always clothed &#8211; in mainstream movie culture, to stuff like Pasoloni\u2019s Salo. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I\u2019m leaving the whole sticky area of porn to one side, as that\u2019s essentially a masturbatory aid, rather than art or \u2018culture\u2019.*<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>In literary terms I guess you could equate this with a spectrum that ranges from the frisson of sex that smatters (or should that be splatters?) popular fiction &#8211; from Mills &amp; Boon to Shades of Grey &#8211; to stuff that\u2019s truly outside the pale, like de Sade\u2019s deliberately \u2018sacrilegious\u2019 extremism.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>In the end the kind of innocent yet knowing, or what I want to call \u2018liberated\u2019 handling (chortle) of sex quite often winds up being expressed at the level of folk art. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>In jokes, bawdy songs, strange efflorescences of varied artefacts, from phallic devotional objects\/totems, to mosaics and wall paintings, or decorating earthenware, jewellery, and whatnot. I wonder why this might be?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>As Neil MacGregor discusses, in the brilliant <em>History of the World in 100 Objects<\/em>, when considering the Warren Cup, what was once shocking and taboo can become commonplace. What once, allegedly, threatened to shake polite society to its very foundations suddenly passes unnoticed.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The softer more titillating treatment of sex is almost always the more commonplace (superabundant these days), at least relative to the darker side. But even that relationship can shift over time. It wasn\u2019t long ago, in myth if not in real life, that gods and beasts were frequently copping off with humans, or vice (pun intended) versa.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I think David Lee Roth put it quite well, when he described erotica as a feather, and porn as the whole plucked chicken.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" width=\"734\" height=\"1024\" src=\"http:\/\/www.sebpalmer.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/img_9533-1-734x1024.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-23382\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.sebpalmer.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/img_9533-1-734x1024.jpg 734w, http:\/\/www.sebpalmer.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/img_9533-1-215x300.jpg 215w, http:\/\/www.sebpalmer.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/img_9533-1-768x1072.jpg 768w, http:\/\/www.sebpalmer.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/img_9533-1-1101x1536.jpg 1101w, http:\/\/www.sebpalmer.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/img_9533-1.jpg 1433w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 734px) 100vw, 734px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Wilde.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Oscar Wilde,  the author of <em>Salome<\/em>, was, as we all ought to know, jailed for two years for being gay. Or \u2018gross indecency\u2019, as it was then styled. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Homosexuality in England remained a \u2018crime\u2019 til 1967. In America this didn\u2019t happen til 2003! And, unbelievably, in 2003 (under Blair) \u2018The Sexual Offences Act 2003 made it illegal for more than two men to engage in consensual sexual activity in private.\u2019 I\u2019m shocked at that.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Voltaire once said \u2018I don&#8217;t think there was ever any civilized nation that enacted laws against mores.\u2019 Which, given how he was himself persecuted, seems unbelievably naive. But at the same time it shows that some societies 300-400 years ago might actually have been <em>more<\/em> liberal\/tolerant than our supposedly permissive modern day ones. Even those that pride themselves on being \u2018democratic\u2019 and \u2018free\u2019!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" width=\"495\" height=\"700\" src=\"http:\/\/www.sebpalmer.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/img_9534.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-23383\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.sebpalmer.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/img_9534.jpg 495w, http:\/\/www.sebpalmer.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/img_9534-212x300.jpg 212w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 495px) 100vw, 495px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Higher res.**<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>To my eyes, Beardsley\u2019s <em>Salome<\/em> illustrations appear tame. But if we are to believe some folk, they were at the time highly scandalous, just like the author of the work, Wilde. It\u2019s hard for the modern liberally minded humanist to see how or why.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>But there have always been hawkish prudes, eager to burn whoever is the witch of the hour. And I wouldn\u2019t be at all surprised if there are as many such now as there ever were.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>*Of course there <em>is<\/em> crossover. You get artistic porn, and pornograohic art. And every conceivable shade or combination between and beyond. But that\u2019s not what I\u2019m touching on (titter) here.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>** I believe I\/we once had some Beardsley coasters, sporting this image. I wonder what became of them?<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I have neither read this, nor seen it enacted. Maybe I should? Can anyone recommend a staging, or adaptation? Rather like art, culture, history, music and my many other interests, sex is frequently on my mind. And consequently sex in art and culture kind of triple-whammies things. 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