{"id":26276,"date":"2025-01-25T23:30:21","date_gmt":"2025-01-25T23:30:21","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.sebpalmer.com\/blog\/?p=26276"},"modified":"2025-10-23T05:14:19","modified_gmt":"2025-10-23T04:14:19","slug":"film-civil-war-2024","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.sebpalmer.com\/blog\/?p=26276","title":{"rendered":"FiLM: Civil War, 2024"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" width=\"691\" height=\"1024\" src=\"http:\/\/www.sebpalmer.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/img_3400-1-691x1024.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-26267\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.sebpalmer.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/img_3400-1-691x1024.jpg 691w, http:\/\/www.sebpalmer.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/img_3400-1-203x300.jpg 203w, http:\/\/www.sebpalmer.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/img_3400-1-768x1137.jpg 768w, http:\/\/www.sebpalmer.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/img_3400-1.jpg 1000w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 691px) 100vw, 691px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" width=\"155\" height=\"30\" src=\"http:\/\/www.sebpalmer.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/stars_08_four-1-2.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-26268\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.sebpalmer.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/stars_08_four-1-2.jpg 155w, http:\/\/www.sebpalmer.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/stars_08_four-1-2-150x30.jpg 150w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 155px) 100vw, 155px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>This is a pretty good film. And the premise, of America having another Civil War, no longer seems at all far fetched. Particularly after Trump\u2019s riotous mob-rule near-coup, the infamous Jan\u2019 6th..<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>One of the key things this movie does well, is bring all that global terrorism and proxy war business, which we re all so familiar with imagery of, on TVs, computers, tablets and phones, right on home to roost. Back in the good ol\u2019 US of A.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>And so it is that two of our key protagonists &#8211; the world-weary elder photojournalist, Lee Miller (Kirsten Dunst) and the younger aspiring photographer, Jessie (Cailly Spaeny) &#8211; meet at a scene of urban rioting, when a flag bearing suicide bomber charges into the melee.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" width=\"1024\" height=\"512\" src=\"http:\/\/www.sebpalmer.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/img_3405-1024x512.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-26272\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.sebpalmer.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/img_3405-1024x512.jpg 1024w, http:\/\/www.sebpalmer.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/img_3405-300x150.jpg 300w, http:\/\/www.sebpalmer.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/img_3405-768x384.jpg 768w, http:\/\/www.sebpalmer.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/img_3405.jpg 1400w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Young hotness meets old n\u2019 busted.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>The film manages to stay almost completely neutral, most of the time, to such an extent it becomes &#8211; as is so often the case in real war &#8211; almost impossible to tell who\u2019s who. Indeed, there\u2019s a sniper scene, which heavily underscores this exact point, in case you weren\u2019t getting the subtler cues.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>It also points up the ways in which all \u2018sides\u2019 quickly descend into barbarism, during war time. Simultaneously both celebrating and yet shining an uncomfortable light on the detached-professionalism ideal, of the press. Or rather the press as it perhaps once was?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" width=\"1024\" height=\"512\" src=\"http:\/\/www.sebpalmer.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/img_3407-1024x512.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-26277\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.sebpalmer.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/img_3407-1024x512.jpg 1024w, http:\/\/www.sebpalmer.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/img_3407-300x150.jpg 300w, http:\/\/www.sebpalmer.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/img_3407-768x384.jpg 768w, http:\/\/www.sebpalmer.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/img_3407.jpg 1400w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Nick Offerman, as the near orange POTUS.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Ultimately the film becomes a road trip: a group of journalists attempt to get to Washington DC, hoping for the gigantic \u2018scoop\u2019 of a presidential interview. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Besieged in D.C. the third term POTUS has not been interviewed &#8211; the movie opens with him rehearsing a chest-beatingly upbeat and patriotic to-camera soliloquy &#8211; in over a year.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" width=\"1024\" height=\"576\" src=\"http:\/\/www.sebpalmer.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/img_3406-1-1024x576.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-26271\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.sebpalmer.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/img_3406-1-1024x576.jpg 1024w, http:\/\/www.sebpalmer.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/img_3406-1-300x169.jpg 300w, http:\/\/www.sebpalmer.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/img_3406-1-768x432.jpg 768w, http:\/\/www.sebpalmer.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/img_3406-1-1536x864.jpg 1536w, http:\/\/www.sebpalmer.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/img_3406-1.jpg 1638w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Aspiring photojournalist, Jessie.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Jessie is just a kid. But also along for the ride is the elderly and morbidly obese Sammy, a veteran NY Times scribe. With two strong female leads, further yin to their yang is provided by Wagner Moura, as Joel, Lee\u2019s writing partner, who\u2019s cynical, and overly fond of booze and weed.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The sense of terror and chaos alternating with normality and tranquility features quite a lot. Sometimes in contrasting sections of the narrative, and at others, almost simultaneously; as during the sniper firefight, when natures\u2019 flowers, in all their small delicate beauty, are blooming, regardless of human strife and folly.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" width=\"306\" height=\"165\" src=\"http:\/\/www.sebpalmer.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/img_3410-1.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-26278\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.sebpalmer.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/img_3410-1.jpg 306w, http:\/\/www.sebpalmer.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/img_3410-1-300x162.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 306px) 100vw, 306px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">An interesting moment\u2026<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>The sound design is a bit ham-fisted, in places. At least to my mind. Shoe-horning some questionable musical choices into the movie, none-too delicately. And the use of occasional \u2018deafening silence\u2019, whilst as effective as ever, was a bit overplayed.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" width=\"885\" height=\"516\" src=\"http:\/\/www.sebpalmer.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/img_3402.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-26269\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.sebpalmer.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/img_3402.jpg 885w, http:\/\/www.sebpalmer.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/img_3402-300x175.jpg 300w, http:\/\/www.sebpalmer.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/img_3402-768x448.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">A WF encampment, near D.C.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>This apparently had an humongous budget. And you can see where the money\u2019s gone. But it also looks like extensive use was made of very slick CGI. Nowadays that\u2019s generally so good &#8211; hyper-real, almost? &#8211; that you really <em>can\u2019t<\/em> tell where reality and CGI end or meet.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Perhaps the most powerful and disturbing scene is that in which an unnamed soldier (or we assume he\u2019s a soldier, as he and his cronies are in battle dress), played by Jesse Plemons*, terrorises the group of journos, who have encountered some old friends\/colleagues on the road. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" width=\"1024\" height=\"512\" src=\"http:\/\/www.sebpalmer.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/img_3404-1024x512.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-26270\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.sebpalmer.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/img_3404-1024x512.jpg 1024w, http:\/\/www.sebpalmer.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/img_3404-300x150.jpg 300w, http:\/\/www.sebpalmer.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/img_3404-768x384.jpg 768w, http:\/\/www.sebpalmer.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/img_3404-1536x768.jpg 1536w, http:\/\/www.sebpalmer.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/img_3404.jpg 2000w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">This scene is kind of the fulcrum of the movie.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>*Kirsten Dunst\u2019s real-life spouse, and &#8211; or so I\u2019ve read &#8211; a last minute replacement for the actor originally cast in the role. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>In this short and grim episode, we get a glimpse of the horrifically brutal simple-mindedness that underlies so much human conflict, in the form of racism.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" width=\"1024\" height=\"512\" src=\"http:\/\/www.sebpalmer.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/img_3409-1024x512.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-26274\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.sebpalmer.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/img_3409-1024x512.jpg 1024w, http:\/\/www.sebpalmer.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/img_3409-300x150.jpg 300w, http:\/\/www.sebpalmer.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/img_3409-768x384.jpg 768w, http:\/\/www.sebpalmer.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/img_3409-1536x768.jpg 1536w, http:\/\/www.sebpalmer.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/img_3409.jpg 2000w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Sammy, played by Stephen McKinley Henderson.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>In the end, against seemingly hopeless or insuperable odds, the journos &#8211; or some of them &#8211; reach the Whitehouse, just as the WF (\u2018Western Forces\u2019?) storm it, massacring a cavalcade of fleeing spooks and aides, mistakenly thought to be the fleeing POTUS.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>And here the film reaches its rather grim denouement. Spoiler alert: the WF troops find and \u2018take out\u2019 the POTUS. What does it all mean? Well, aside from the <a href=\"https:\/\/en.m.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Babi_Yar\">Babi Yar<\/a> style massacre scene, the production team resolutely strive for neutrality. But in the context of Trumpian politics? There\u2019s a clear and very disturbing message.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" width=\"1024\" height=\"753\" src=\"http:\/\/www.sebpalmer.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/img_3408-1-1024x753.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-26273\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.sebpalmer.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/img_3408-1-1024x753.jpg 1024w, http:\/\/www.sebpalmer.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/img_3408-1-300x221.jpg 300w, http:\/\/www.sebpalmer.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/img_3408-1-768x565.jpg 768w, http:\/\/www.sebpalmer.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/img_3408-1-1536x1130.jpg 1536w, http:\/\/www.sebpalmer.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/img_3408-1.jpg 2000w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Troops pose with the Presidential corpse.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Whilst it\u2019s not made immediately explicit, we pick up that the President is a third term despot. Racism is the fundamental part of the \u2018what <em>kind<\/em> of American are you\u2019 conundrum. And our faces are rubbed in the extreme inhumanity &#8211; or perhaps I should just say brutality? &#8211; of war, which, despite the film\u2019s themes\/title, is never very civil, if you follow?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>There\u2019s a couple of very good reviews of the film <a href=\"https:\/\/www.polygon.com\/24134902\/civil-war-jesse-plemons-bodies-scene\">here<\/a>, and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.polygon.com\/24126438\/civil-war-politics-alex-garland-interview\">here<\/a>, that are both well worth a read.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" width=\"600\" height=\"392\" src=\"http:\/\/www.sebpalmer.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/img_3375-1.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-26275\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.sebpalmer.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/img_3375-1.jpg 600w, http:\/\/www.sebpalmer.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/img_3375-1-300x196.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 600px) 100vw, 600px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Silver Apples, c. 1968.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>FOOTNOTE: Music<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The first very prominent bit of pop-culture OST programming, that slaps you in the face, is the rather brilliantly quirky \u2018Lovefingers\u2019, by Silver Apples. It\u2019s an amazing piece. Esp\u2019 so given it was released in 1968! I\u2019m not entirely sure it\u2019s the best choice for that particular moment in the film. But maybe I\u2019m wrong. Whatever! What I <em>am<\/em> glad of is that it\u2019s there at all. Reminding me I need to <a href=\"http:\/\/www.sebpalmer.com\/blog\/?p=26281\">check out Silver Apples<\/a> in more depth.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>This is a pretty good film. And the premise, of America having another Civil War, no longer seems at all far fetched. Particularly after Trump\u2019s riotous mob-rule near-coup, the infamous Jan\u2019 6th.. 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